美齡アントニア // 미령 ([info]rosesnchaos) wrote,
@ 2006-07-16 21:44:00
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Entry tags:chinese, cultures, idiots, rants

Sinocentrism at its worst
For those of you who have been reading my journal for some time, I think you'd remember those few rants about some Sinocentric people in my social circle. These friends of friends are typical Chinese-educated traditionalists with backward ideas on social and political issues, are pro-China and anti-Japan but think Japanese AV idols are hot and drive supped up Hondas and Toyotas. Oh and they just enjoy making fun of my love for J-rock music, among other insufferable things.

Well, today I had the misfortune to spend lunchtime with them. If I knew these idiots would be there, I wouldn't have gone. Seriously. They had nothing better to say other than stupid stuff and to show off photos from their China trip, which they just got back from last week. Yadda yadda they went on and on about beautiful China and beautiful Chinese girls. ~_~

The purpose of this post is to point out an unforgettable (but decidedly daft) opinion from one of the guys, who gushed about historical sites and the extensive Chinese empire of bygone days:

    You notice, we were never a "bowing" culture. People bow to show respect and awe for superiors, but only like a servant bowing to his lord. Bowing is for lowly serfs. Ordinary Chinese people don't bow to each other. I mean, not to every Tom, Dick and Harry they meet. Not like the Japanese or Koreans, who bow to everyone, regardless of status. That kind of mentality has been in practice for so many centuries. I think it began when they were lowly ancient states, in comparison to the Chinese empire. Chinese contributed so much to Japan and Korea, like our language and traditions. Japan even paid tribute to us in the old days. That shows we're actually a more sophisticated and confident race. We don't bow every second or grovel at people's feet but walk and talk with confidence. I'm definitely proud to be Chinese in that sense.


(Bear in mind the guy didn't use those exact words. I'm interpreting from his Manglish usage, which was a mishmash of broken English and Hokkien.)

Soooo... what the friggin nut is that all about?!

THAT is a sad lot of distorted and outrageous trash. The fool had the gall to speak them out. I felt sooo embarrassed listening to him, but his two other equally stupid friends agree with him. Please read up on actual Asian history and cultures before you speak, you peabrain. "Bowing" is about being respectful AND courteous, not being inferior. The way he put it, made it sound a lot like as if Chinese people are arrogant and impolite who refuse to give in to a simple bow, although he meant it the other way round. Stupid huh?

The other two guys couldn't stop talking about "hot authentic Chinese girls" and the clubbing scene in Shanghai. They described everything in such a show-offish, we-are-so-elite manner that it was seriously intolerable. Our other lunch companions looked like they could punch them in the face or something. Well, it ain't my idea to invite those primates along and put us through an ordeal over pizza! It's a wonder I didn’t suffer from indigestion after lunch.

Fuktards. I seriously wonder what people learnt at those independent Chinese schools? Was their education really that nationalistic? Most of my Chinese friends were from national Malay/English-medium schools like myself, so I don't really know. I think it's high time I find out, so at least I know where these fools stand.

Hah! Chinese lent its language and culture to its neighbors eh? Now, I don't think the fools would fancy having nationalistic Koreans hear a word of that! They'll probably get shredded to pieces for daring to suggest that the Chinese had anything to do with the 5000 years of unique Korean culture. I guess they have yet to encounter a first-hand experience with true "Korean Pride" and its intensity. :P



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[info]tobeychick
2006-07-16 02:23 pm UTC (link)
That's effing rude. What do they mean by authentic Chinese girls? You calling us fakes then?

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[info]rosesnchaos
2006-07-16 04:29 pm UTC (link)
I know!
They didn't quite like it when I said 'authentic Chinese prostitutes'. Hah. :X

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[info]squashedtiger
2006-07-16 03:16 pm UTC (link)
I find it highly annoying if a person prides himself/herself on being a certain race, and disses other races/cultures while they are at it. Dude, you don't have your own pride and you have to hang on to what your ancestors were? (even though the whole bowing thing is wrong)

Total nonsense + arrogant bullcrap. If I were on the same table, I think I would had argued with them.

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[info]rosesnchaos
2006-07-16 04:32 pm UTC (link)
I can't argue with them, because I'm already labelled as "pro-Japanese" and "suffers from identity crisis", so any arguments from me are "invalid".

Besides, I was busy stuffing myself with cheesy bites pizza to care too much. :P

The other people did try to argue, but the fuktards were fast to change the subject. Bleh.

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[info]ryul
2006-07-16 03:52 pm UTC (link)
I'm glad my Chinese friends are not so extremists. But if they're that extreme, they wouldn't have call me "friend", since in their eyes I'd be the combo of two lesser cultures. LOL.

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[info]rosesnchaos
2006-07-16 04:32 pm UTC (link)
No~ you're a supreme combo!

Haha.. that sounds like a pizza flavor or something. xP

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(Anonymous)
2006-07-16 03:57 pm UTC (link)
Ancient Chinese don't bow, they KOWTOW. Who says they didn't grovel at feets?

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[info]rosesnchaos
2006-07-16 04:34 pm UTC (link)
Errr... Ok... but who are you?


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(Anonymous)
2006-07-17 04:29 am UTC (link)
Not all chinese are like those guys you mentioned.
I'm in Shanghai and i like your blog cause i can learn the more authentic English.I'm learning Japanese also and i'm not a nationalistic.

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(Anonymous)
2006-07-17 04:40 am UTC (link)
I'm the above anonymous person.Because i'm not registered here so i can't show my ID.
My MSN:vinkingking@hotmail.com,I'd like to be your friends.As i've already said i'm from Shanghai and i'm going to be a graduate students.今日本語を勉強します、英語を勉強します、このブログが好きです。

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[info]rosesnchaos
2006-07-17 04:46 pm UTC (link)
Hi, thank you for visiting. I added you to MSN. Hope to see you online. ^__^

私も日本語を勉強します。 とても面白いですね~
じゃあ、 またね~

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(Anonymous)
2006-07-18 04:21 am UTC (link)
I've emailed you already.Hope we could meet online.

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(Anonymous)
2006-07-17 04:42 pm UTC (link)
Read your posts on kennysia.com, about the Ms sarawak pageant.

I couldn't agree with you more, yes, the prettier, smarter girls indeed have better things to do than join these pageants and flaunt themselves.

Brains over beauty, any given day.

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[info]rosesnchaos
2006-07-19 12:58 pm UTC (link)
Hi~ Thanks for that. But mind to identify yourself? At least, with a nickname? :)

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borrowed language
(Anonymous)
2006-09-03 11:02 pm UTC (link)
actually, as repulsive as you might find your lunch companion, he's right about the japanese and koreans borrowing from the chinese... at least as far as language is concerned. why do you think so many japanese characters are the same as the chinese ones?

i could go on, but you'd just brand me as a sinophile.

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